Telling Feral Tales

Theo: Yes, Feral is back to telling tales again. In this case he just resurrected some old posts. Here's the Feral version of pirate history, we'll interject the truth in RED:

by Feral Donkey on Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:51 pm
Like my buddy's grandpaw told him, no matter how thin you make the pancake, it's still got 2 sides. Here's my version.

Well shoot, we couldn't even get past the first sentence without hitting a wall of lies. Feral wants people to believe that the trouble betweem them and virtually everybody began with Lancaster bribing his way into the pirate site. Here's the truth. Feral and Hank were run off of Tradtalk. Any guess why? For Feral it was obscene posts, and drunken behavior. For Hank it was obnoxious behaviour exactly like the behaviour that has run out the patience of almost everyone on the pirate site. He was shilling Quinn bows in exchange for free bows from Quinn, which drove people crazy. Then it was his ridiculous Hanky aiming system. When his crap didn't fly, he became increasingly assaultive, and eventually was asked to take a time out. He left instead. The third founder, who just left voluntarily was Topcamp. His beef with Tradtalk? He wanted to be able to say "fuck" and considered any standard of conduct to be censorship. These 3 ignoramouses were the founders of the POA. If they had just left, that would have been the end of it. Instead they immediately started using their new site to launch attacks against Tradtalk and certain individuals like DAS. They were joined in short order by Gino and Cutty. Cutty was also banned for assaultive behaviour. Is this a shock to anyone? While Gino was involved in the early trouble, he has tried to steer clear of late. He still condones the actions of others that he knows are rotten. Cutty has been a primary trouble maker, and has brought more heat directly on the Pirates than everybody else combined. This was the TRUE genesis of the rift between the pirates and Tradtalk. Lancaster came out with a 17" ILF riser with classic lines of a Hoyt takedown recurve. It Looks like the DAS 17" riser which is also has the classic Hoyt look to it in a 17" package. They both are black anodized risers with rubber chicken grips. As far as I'm concerned, they're both ordinary looking and I don't see how one is a copy of the other because they look really regular, like every other take-down recurve handle made from the late 60's til now. So when the Lancaster catalog came to everyone a few months back, people opened up the catalog and saw a bow for sale that looked similar to the DAS. The fuse was lit and the shit hit the fan. Nope sorry wrong again. Rob Kaufhold decided to copy the DAS bow when he saw it on a hunting trip with his longtime friend Joe Lowry (NJstykbow). He and Joe took the riser back to Lancaster where it was disassembled for a closer look. Rob later denied having ever seen it. In preparation for his DAS copy launch, we went to Korea where he negotiated a deal that would prevent DAS from obtaining any Samick limbs. At the time DAS was using them to produce his heavy "buff" bows. The copy of the DAS bow was deliberate and calculated. The only miscalculation was that Rob thought he could roll into town and bully his way straight through the obstacles. Several people called Lancaster to enquire about the bow, and his salesmen told all of them that the Titan was a "copy of the DAS, but cheaper". When Rob realized he had stepped on a political landmine with his dirty deals, he shut his sales people up. Soza came unglued and mobilized his troops. Using his influence over Trad Talk, he caused as big of a mess for himself and for Lancaster as he possibly could have. Nope, Soza acted just as anyone would who has had the work of the last 3 years stolen. In fact Soza tried to find some amicable middle ground with Rob, but Rob had other plans. He also used it as an opprotunity to slander me and my board, even though I had fXXk-all to do with the whole thing. Then Rob, owner of Lancaster and now a memeber here, started posting on my board. Rob didn't just start posting on the POA. Cutty saw this as a perfect opportunity to use the conflict, and Rob, to attack Tradtalk and DAS. Cutty contacted Rob and invited him to the POA so they could fight a common enemy. An enemy that had never done them a bit of harm besides kicking them off a website. Rob joined knowing full well what the Pirates were up to, and more than willing to use them to attack DAS and Tradtalk. Turns out he's a nice guy and is trying to make cool stuff. He saw a void in the market that Soza wasn't filling and he went for it. Nope, he saw an opportunity to capitalize on another mans hard work, and thought he could use his money and influence to bulldoze DAS into the ground. The pirates knew it too. Gino, Cutty, and even KCummings all called him on it, before Rob got the fix in. Feral said that Rob made his bed and desrved what he got. That was all before they figured out how to make use of the situation. I got no beef with Rob and I thought the slander campaign on him was a little childish and smelled like Communist, good-ol-boy, cry-baby rhetoric. so I gave him shelter and had the only place on the internet where the DASkateers couldn't pick fights and destroy the discussions about his gear. Nope, Rob attempted to threaten and bribe the trad websites into doing his bidding. That's why he got into trouble with some. Some were offered as much as $10,000. Penny Banks confirmed that fact right on the Dead Chicken. Rob became a proud "sponsor" of Stickbow and he was already a sponsor of Archery Talk with complete control of their moderators. Tradtalk and TradGang sent Rob and his money packing. Any coincidence that both have been targeted by the Pirates?? I wonder. Rob also threatened to throw all his weight behind the Pirates unless Tradtalk played ball on his terms. Tradtalk declined and the pirates got a new website. Most likely Feral got a nice check for his part, but he'll never admit it. If he wasn't paid, he was the ONLY site owner that wasn't approached. What are the chances of that?? Of course this made me a target for their wrath too, spreadding lies that this site is owned by Lancaster and we're all their agents of destruction, which couldn't be farther from the truth. They worked, and probably still work, around the clock, making phone calls, sending hate letters to his vendors, spreadding lies and malice behind the scene about myself and my products, etc... Here we have a clear case of projection. there were no phone calls, no hate letters, and no lies. It was the truth that chapped their hides. Many of the pirates did get caught writing letters to DAS associates, and making phone calls. They lied about who they were and what their motives were. Cutty, Hank, and Stykshooter (Rob's buddy)were among them. The pirates have been spreading lies deliberately ever since, and tons of them have been exposed by Theo and Gassy if you care to read the entries. They should put their energy into creating something. Hell, for the ammount of energy and work they wasted on trying to do harm to themselves and others, they could have made some really neat stuff.That is my version. The energy expended was in dealing with the barrage of lies and evildoings by the pirates and Lancaster surregates. Evil doings that have continued to this day and continue to fuel the animosity. There was never been any attention paid the Pirates at all except in response to their attacks. They have operated as a terrorist organization lobbing missiles down on decent people who just want to be left alone. It has been that way since theses defectives were run off of Tradtalk. Think HAMAS! Same MO. You can get as many versions of this story as you like, just depends who you ask. There are other players involved that I didn't mention also like Kevin (GEREP). Yes, there was Kevin Cummings. Guess what got him into trouble?? He was outspoken about the dirty dealings regarding Lancaster until he received a PM from Rob offering to send him a bow to "evaluate". He did not contact Rob as he claims. That's when Cummings went on a spamming rampage. He copied full page spam ads onto every website. He was questioned about it on Tradtalk because like many websites, spam is not tolerated. Tradtalk was especially unhappy because money and threats from Lancaster had already been dealt with by the owner. When confronted with information that he had received the bow for free, Cummings refused to answer, and he refused to drop the spamming for his new found buddy Rob. That is the truth about Cummings problems with Tradtalk. It's amazing that people will sell their soul for so little. Cummings did, and he was banned because of it. Of course he has been a big part of the ongoing trouble. He tries to sneak back onto Tradtalk every chance he gets, and was banned for the umteenth time just a week ago. Kevin hates the fact that he has to live in the same trailer park with the rest of the trash, but he made his own bed and now has to lay in it. I gave you the "short" version of the story.Lord of the Hooligans.

Gassy: yep, well it's a shame we has to keep going ovur all this, but when the pirates try to sell thar lies we has no choice.

Theo: That's right Gassy, LOL. They just aren't smart enough to shut the hell up and quit lying, so they will have to suffer the truth yet again.